Thursday, March 22, 2007

We Support The Troops But Not The War


Radical Liberals burning a U.S. flag and a U.S. soldier in effigy.

7 comments:

Jules said...

We support the troops but not the war - HA! What a load of B.S.! If anyone is naive enough to believe that, I have a bridge I think they might be interested in.

What a travesty! Kind of makes you wonder what happened to these people to make their thinking so warped.

john k said...

Radical Liberals?
I thought a left lib was just that. How does one seperate the radicals from the mainstreams? Actually there is not many difference especially this anti-war crowd including the anarchists. Birds of a feather..gather together.

Za said...

Jules - how can you support the war and the troops?

If you support the war, you support putting the troops into a war which looks unlikely to end this decade, and making them go on what is now up to four tours of duty because you don't have enough soldiers for said war.

If you support the troops, you want what's best for them.

How is what's best for them putting them in harms way for years on end without respite?

jake said...

Za, they "support the troops" because it makes them feel warm and fuzzy and overall, good about themselves. "It's the least we can do."

2 things I've noticed:

1) The flag is upside-down. A sign of a nation under distress.
2) The "effigy" appears to be that of a dead soldier.

Now, when you burn something (as part of a protest, anyhow) what does that convey?

Hate, discontempt, etc.

So, they're burning a symbol of a country under distress which in turn is burning the body of a "dead soldier"...

"We hate this corrupt system which is killing soldiers."

Hmm. Conclusion: I DON'T AGREE WITH THEM! THEY MUST HATE AMERICA!

Chris really needs to read the right-side of his page again. You know, the part about free speech and all.

Indian Chris said...

John, you can be on the left without being a radical lib. I only wish I had one here. Why are far-left nutjobs attracted to my blog? But Mort Kondracke, Joe Lieberman, Bono for example.

Za, how can you support the troops and the war? Easy. You support the job that they do. You might disagree with it. You might even hate it, but you support it. Because these men and woman are putting their butts on the line for innocent people to have a taste of the freedom you and I take for granted. Think about it this way. If you support the police and firefighters you support sending them into harms way every time they go out on a call. If you support them you want the best for them. How is the best for them putting them in harms way where they could be shot or burned alive?

Jake, how long have you known me? 3 year or more? You should know by now that I don't give a flying fuck about others freedom of speech. I'm a hypocrite and proud of it. At least I'm able to admit it unlike so many others around the world.

Za said...

Easy. You support the job that they do.
That's supporting the army, not the troops. The whole point of the phrase "support the troops" is that you're giving a damn about the people who are fighting the war, not the system.

If you support the police and firefighters you support sending them into harms way every time they go out on a call. If you support them you want the best for them. How is the best for them putting them in harms way where they could be shot or burned alive?
Ah, very nicely put. I'll pay that.

But you wouldn't do to your firefighters what the Bush administration has done to its troops in this war. You certainly wouldn't go out of your way to light a fire for them to fight, and when it gets too big for them to handle you'd try and get more help from elsewhere to back them up rather than just trying to make them work harder? Because I mean, it's not as if they've been trying to contain a country-sized fire to begin with or anything.
And if questioned about why they were low on fire-protective gear you wouldn't make jokes about it, would you?
And you'd make sure that they didn't get given faulty equipment, rather than just letting it go for a couple of years while they fight the one fire, right?

If you seriously supported the troops, you wouldn't support an administration that didn't support the troops. And guess what? They don't.

RudeBoyMurphy said...

"John, you can be on the left without being a radical lib."
John, just check-out the ISO (international socialist Organisation) if you want to see a contrast...
They are a brand of nut-jobs (to borrow Chris' term) that make any left view voiced here appear conservative (I always get a good laugh out of them... btw they 'interviewed' me a few years ago, without being completely honest who they were, and they presented ME as moderate/conservative... while they were too busy calling each other 'comrade'... )

Chris, I think you'll find that many of the leftists you've got commenting on blog are largely 'centre-left', but that it is too tempting to wind-up John, who's views are pretty far to the right (genocide of Islam?).
What I mean, is if you spoke to some of these people walking down the street, out of the context of left vs. right political discussion, that it might take a bit to find-out that you were talking to someone left-leaning