Saturday, August 13, 2005
AGAIN, THE NY TIMES DOESN'T UNDERSTAND
We all know the New York Times hates Republicans and this country in general, but they really show their ignorance with this story headlined "Where Are The War Heroes?". This reporter, Damien Cave, wonders why there hasn't been an instantly recognizable war hero today. He then goes on to blame everyone under the sun, except one source.
"that might be because the military, the White House and the culture at large have not publicized their actions with the zeal that was lavished on the heroes of World War I and World War II."
What about the media? Are they not also at fault? I mean they're the ones that are supposed to be bringing us this story. They're the ones who are supposed to be covering what the evil Bush administration won't. Why don't they cover the good things coming from Iraq and help make an instantly recognizable war hero today? But I have to say that this piece does report some heroic stories. It starts off with three short tales of some of the heroes in Iraq.
"One soldier fought off scores of elite Iraqi troops in a fierce defense of his outnumbered Army unit, saving dozens of American lives before he himself was killed. Another soldier helped lead a team that killed 27 insurgents who had ambushed her convoy. And then there was the marine who, after being shot, managed to tuck an enemy grenade under his stomach to save the men in his unit, dying in the process"
See, what people like those at the NY Times fail to understand are two things.

1) When the White House does publicize the actions of a singular soldier they get bashed, by the likes of the Times, for exploiting that soldier for their own gain. Remember Jessica Lynch?

2) The other thing they fail to understand is that EVERY soldier in the military is a hero. We don't need to single out just one man or just one woman and latch onto them as a symbol, rather we need embrace every one of them and let them know we think of them as heroes.

But asking the NY Times and there ilk to understand that is like asking a Christian to denounce God. Pointless.

We Have Every Right To Dream Heroic Dreams. Those Who Say That We're In A Time When There Are No Heroes, They Just Don't Know Where To Look
President Ronald Reagan

The Only Thing Necessary For Evil To Triumph
Is For Good Men To Do Nothing

20 comments:

SGT_E said...

There are so many heroes that we need to hear about but our media is so busy trying to undermine our military in their anti-war nonsense that we will never hear thier stories unless you look elsewhere. Then of course we have the same predictable lunatics who say "we shouldn't idolize these soldiers their not heroes". The left will claim that soldiers are not heroes, but they are wrong. The American soldier is perhaps one of the few true heroes left in this world. Now prepare for the same old useless and ignorant leftist comments from our friend Za cause you know they are coming...

GRR said...

I see the story differently. I believe they are basically reporting on the differences in the type of war and culture we are facing today versus WWI and WWII. They are also commenting on the "celebrity culture that seems skewed more to the victim than to the hero." With Jessica Lynch - I saw her being made into a celeb rather than a hero.....

The quote, "the cult of celebrity has cheapened fame......What's a war hero to do? Go on 'Oprah'?" - That says alot!

I think this quote is also very true: "....perhaps the military, which has always been uncomfortable with elevating one soldier's actions over the efforts of others, would rather favor the group than the individual. Everyone is in it, fighting 110 percent, so unless there is an act of truly outstanding heroism, you don't want to select just one," This is basically in line with what you just said Chris, right? That every soldier in the military is a hero?!

Indian Chris said...

Bingo

GRR said...

So Chris - then why are you bashing the NYTimes if they are providing quotes in their article that are in line with your beliefs? I just don't see how, from this article, the "NY Times Doesn't Understand"....?? They are reporting on the issue at hand. They are not saying there are no heroes, they are asking the questions.

Indian Chris said...

If the NYT thinks there are heroes, why then don't they report on them and their heroics rather than the deaths?

SGT_E said...

one out of a hundred enemy attacks against our forces in Iraq are successful.Most are dismal failures, the bad guys are killed, and sometimes it backfires completely. We only see the successful attacks on the news. We only see Americans die. We never see our many victories that happen everyday. Why don't they report the attacks that are successfully repelled? Why don't we see reports about all the terrorists we are killing over there? I guarantee the ratio of American soldiers to terrorists killed is probably 10:1 in favor of the good guys. Why don't we see the numerous reports I have read from soldiers fighting there about the hundreds of terrorists who blow themselves up trying to set up an IED? Go to philandbecky.blogspot.com, he chronicles a kind of Darwin Award for terrorists in Iraq. Read michaelyon.blogspot.com and see the success of the Iraqi Security Forces helping us win the Battle for Mosul. The mainstream media won't do its job and provide fair coverage, but at least we can find news and information directly from the source. The soldiers over there know what they are fighting for. THey know how important this work is. They see the reality and the big picture while the media pundits and ignorant politicians argue mindlessly here in the comfort of the freedom and protection they are fighting to provide for us. America needs its heroes now more than ever. There are heroes and their bravery and honor is being chronicled, you just have to look for it.

Indian Chris said...

One simple reason we don't see these things. The Left will try to make you believe it's because they're not that newsworthy, "bad news makes a good story", but the real reason is because Big Media hates the military. Plain and simple.

Opinionnation said...

You would think that if the NY times has enough room to fit in countless stories of how the military are torturers they could do a few on the heroes of Iraq.

Indian Chris said...

You would think, but would entail they admit the military isn't a total evil being bent on killing the innocent.

Za said...

If the NYT thinks there are heroes, why then don't they report on them and their heroics rather than the deaths?
Probably has something to do with Bush banning the photographing of any of the returning dead. That's the thing the article highlights most for me. Only once have photoes of the coffins managed to be taken - by people who were forced by necessity to be taken on board on of the shipping planes - and their cameras and film were both confiscated.

Any pics you see of coffins draped with US flags are file footage.

Indian Chris said...

I think you went off on another anti-Bush/anti-war tangent, Za. What does that have to do with BM not reporting the heroic things the soliders are doing? Just because they can't show the coffins means they can't talk about the good things they're doing?

Unit 3 said...

the reason the media is not allowed to take pictures of the flag draped coffins is because they will do what they did during vietnam and use that against the military and disgrace the memory of our brave heroes returning home on their fianl journey by further politicizing this war and bashing this president. the msm first goal is to smear Bush, hate the military, and undermine the war.

Za said...

Chris - because the media is an multi-informational level thing. You can run a story about a war hero - but what's a war hero if he doesn't visibly come home (dead or alive)? People want to SEE this hero as he is currently so that they can honour his memory, and even if all they hold in their memory is the image of his coffin, at least they can use that to pay their respects. Dated photos are all well and good, but they don't show the results of their sacrifice.

And Mr Unknown, should I remind you that it's CNN that runs with information on dead soldiers, not Fox? Damn that evil liberal media - representing the troops just to make the conservatives look bad!

Za said...

Once again - damn that liberal media:

At War in Bomb Field, at Peace in Field of Dreams

CAMP WARHORSE, Iraq, Aug. 17 - After a seven-hour mission inside an armored Humvee so hot its metal would burn exposed skin, Staff Sgt. Dawayne Harterson crawled out the passenger door, exhausted, and walked directly to his tent.

He quickly exchanged his uniform for an Army-issued gray T-shirt and black shorts.

A few minutes later, he was standing on a grassless expanse, ready for the next task of his yearlong deployment in Iraq: softball season.

"C'mon, dawg! Where is everybody?" he said to his coach, Sgt. Ronnie Mays, when they realized the team was a player short. "Man, I'm gonna lose my mind if we don't play today."

Their Army Reserve unit, Company A of the 467th Engineer Battalion based in Memphis, has one of the most harrowing jobs on this base. As many as two or three times a day, often on only a few hours' sleep, the engineers of the 467th leave the relative safety of Warhorse's walls and travel down highways at 20 miles an hour in search of the No. 1 killer of American soldiers in Iraq: roadside bombs, known as improvised explosive devices, or I.E.D.'s.

[Six more American soldiers were killed Thursday by roadside bombs, four by a blast in the northern Iraqi city of Samarra and two others in Afghanistan, the military said. Pages A4 and A9.]

"One minute we're trying to catch a fly ball; the next minute, we're praying not to get blown into a million pieces," said Sergeant Harterson, 35, from Jacksonville, N.C., as Black Hawk medevac helicopters flew over Warhorse and Bradley fighting vehicles kicked up dust in the distance. "That's how messed up our life has been. But man, we still need sports, because we need to have that escape."


Brand spanking new article today from the NY Times. Damn them and their evil hatred of the US and their good soldiers! Damn them to hell!

Unit 3 said...

just b/c they can get it right once in a while doesnt mean i will give them a free pass. not every writer at the NYT is liberal. i think they employ about 1 or 2 Conservatives.

Za said...

It's not "once in a while" - if you actually read it, they're almost every single day.

Unit 3 said...

regardless, the damage they do is irreparable and cannot be undone w/ a few articles. if they have been doing this more frequently it may be because they are losing readers. finally maybe they realize that the hateful shit they print is turning people away from their newspaper.

Za said...

Damage. Right - whatever you reckon.
I mean, it's not as if turning the event that gave the US the most sympathy it's had in decades into something that made it the most resented nation on the planet isn't doing damage... but I get it - blame the newspapers!

UNKNOWN said...

bullshit. we know which countries felt real sympathy and which ones only played the part. we will always be resented no matter what we do. the only way the US will cease to be hated is when we cease to exist which will never happen as long as i am alive. we have always been hated and always will be because that is the price of success and the price of freedom. we are the best and most powerful nation on earth and we will always face the same resentment.

Za said...

The only way you'll cease to be hated is if you stop fucking the rest of the world over.

Hatred isn't the price of "success" or "freedom" - it's the price of getting to success by stepping on everyone else.

But I guess you prefer to listen to Republican rhetoric over the CIA. I'll paraphrase a CIA report here "they hate us for our policies, not for our freedoms".