SHOULD WE STAY OR SHOULD WE GO?
Want to let your feelings on our involvement in Iraq known? Head here and let the world know. This is your chance to debate a length on the pros and cons of staying or pulling out. And believe it or not, I think there are goods reasons for both but the reasons for staying outweigh those for pulling out. So head over to my forums and let it all out.
The Only Thing Necessary For Evil To Triumph
Is For Good Men To Do Nothing
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Two things.
Firstly, Proboards do a better job than Bravenet for forums.
Secondly, perhaps we should see the war in picture book form, just so we know what we're arguing here.
Wow Za, you're presenting one side of the war. What a surprise. Almost as bad as me.
No, I'm presenting the war. You only present the happy-go-lucky afterwards, so that way you can avoid having to deal with the actual actions the US go through to get there.
In my book, the ends do not justify the means.
Obviously. Who cares if people are free, right? Just so long as you're happy and free, they don't matter.
za's photos do not support his arguments. in fact in some ways they undermine them. yes war is terrible. even one as blind as za can see that. i know from experience. no one ever looks at the consequences of not going to war or the consequences of pulling out before the mission is complete. if we had not destroyed saddam's evil regime then thousands of iraqis would be filling up in mass graves every year. saddam killed far more people in one attack against the kurds and shiite dissidents than we have in this entire conflict.
if we leave now then the terrorists would destroy iraq and murder hundreds of thousands of people and iraq would become a haven for terrorism. right now iraq is where the terrorists go to get killed by our forces and regretably they occassionally take one of us with them and in the process kill innocent iraqis. and yes humans error and our troops have killed civilians in the fog of war. this is to be expected and we do not enjoy that fact. unfortunately it happens despite the great lengths we go to to prevent civilian casualties. if we do not fight then the enemies and terrorists will see this as weakness to be exploited. it will embolden them to attack more countries and kill more innocent people.
[sarcasm]Yeah Chris - exactly.
And for that matter, who cares that the civilian death rate has doubled in the past three years. Who cares that they're dying. Just so long as we're alive, eh?[/sarcasm]
And please Epler, tell me where I said we should pull out? Where have I argued that American forces should just leave them all to die?
My argument is that the whole war was bloody stupid to begin with and should not have happened (at least not under Bush, who's military acumen is about the same as a pinecone), but since we don't live in an optimal situation, we're going to have to go with the second best eventuality.
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